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Totally agree they have far exceeded anything we have done. However.

I don't see any evidence they would be more than a middle of the road team in a BCS/P5 conference. They had their great seasons playing in C-USA and the AAC which are not on the level of the BCS/P5 conferences. I find it hard to believe they would have made any of their BCS bowls with maybe the exception of this past season playing in a P5 level conference. Note that they have also had their bad seasons - including going 0-13 in non-BCS/non-P5 conferences.

Yes, they have done more than NCSU or UNC in the last decade. They are also playing weaker schedules. They have been better than NCSU and UNC a lot of the recent years. They are also 1-2 vs. NCSU. In the 2 years they lost to NCSU, UCF was 11-3 (NCSU was 9-4 that year) and 9-4 (NCSU was 8-5). The year they beat NCSU, UCF was 10-4 and NCSU was 5-7. I see no way that UCF has anywhere near the success they have had if they were in a P5 conference. And I don't see them being any better than UNC or NCSU. Again, the ACC (which has actually been stronger than the SEC a couple of times - certainly in 2016) is not CUSA or the AAC.

Disagree about NCSU. If they can't be more than they are in the ACC, there is no way in the world they would survive in the SEC. They would be lucky to have 3 winning seasons in a decade. Doesn't matter though, because the SEC is not getting any team from the ACC. The ACC, with their buyout restrictions, is hands down the safest conference in the country and NCSU couldn't go to any other conference because no one could afford (or make it worth it) them and that includes the SEC.

I have not problem with UCF's success. They have done much, much more than we have done (or will probably ever do).

[Post edited by Kolchak at 05/17/2018 4:51PM]

(In response to this post by V.I. Pirate)

Posted: 05/17/2018 at 4:48PM


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